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Thrifty Families "A Major Reason The Downturn May Not Soon End": WSJ



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- frankiestage See Profile I'm a Fan of frankiestage permalink

Wasn't this all predictable? When people had to commit 40, 50, 55% of their incomes to mortgages, why weren't the banks, the lenders cocncerned? Surely they didn't think it was sustainable. And when the foreclosures began to mount, the banks folded their arms and decided they didn't want to play anymore. But since taxpayers have now funded their losses to the tune of $750,000,000, they're feeling a little better. The greed of the oil companies sunk the nails in the coffin though, and now here we sit. Change has come, and more drastic changes are on the way.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 01/06/2009
- MuchMadness See Profile I'm a Fan of MuchMadness permalink

No one has commented on a major social change over the past fifty years. It is now widely accepted that in order to survive financially most families will need to have both parents working in the paid labor force.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:08 PM on 01/06/2009
- Realist See Profile I'm a Fan of Realist permalink

Yep - we need 104 paychecks per year. And this is just to cover FIXED COSTS - Housing, health care, education, and food.

Meanwhile, families facing greater risk if one is laid off - more risk to each family. Put on top of that the cost of mortgages today as is correctly pointed out above, health care today versus 20 years ago, then add day care... give me a break.

Now someone gets sicks and guess what - insurance doesn;t cover it or hospital sends them home early to recover with the family = more days off = more poor families.

Families today with children are facing 100% increase in mortgage costs, meanwhile they have to forgo health insurance to pay for these fixed costs and there is no social safety net.

LEt's face it folks - the middle class has been decimated....

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 01/07/2009
- wdw505 See Profile I'm a Fan of wdw505 permalink

why do you need me as a tax payer to be your so called safety net

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:13 AM on 01/07/2009
- tomas0808 See Profile I'm a Fan of tomas0808 permalink

I have. And what was the major reason for that, even more than wages not keeping pace? The banks, who manipulated home prices to skyrocket. I did a little calculation: If home prices (where I live, Seattle area) had been tied to wages in the 60's a house that is $500,000 would be $80,000. That is where they should be, given people's reasonable ability to pay them off in their lifetime given what we make.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 PM on 01/06/2009
- Lochmon See Profile I'm a Fan of Lochmon permalink

1) This country is creating massive debt that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for.

2) Oops, we made a little miscalculation, regarding when 1) would come due.

    Reply    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 PM on 01/06/2009